Creating a loop function

Hi John,

This is a great idea but most users can’t be bothered to use something like this.

Could you send us to an implementation you like?

If it’s not too hard to implement, we’ll take a look at it. With the current technology, you could actually set up the loops in advance for the key sections (still using a single file). Would that work for you?

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hi John,

Do you have an example page which is not hidden behind a login?

Cheers,

Alec

Yes, that one’s good, John. The A-B looping technology is very easy to use. Martin and I will take a close look at how it’s done.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Slow Motion: we can definitely add a slow motion button to the player, John.

Martin, let’s add an option for slow motion with + – signs this week.

Hi John,

I will get back to you tomorrow with an estimate. Have a good evening.

Hello John,

the speed buttons were added to our plugin. Just upgrade to FV WordPress Flowplayer 2.3.14 and check Settings -> FV WordPress Flowplayer -> Player Skin -> Speed Buttons.

Thanks,
Martin

Hi John!

We could accelerate the A-B interface. It would work only in the HTML5 version (what most browsers and people are using) and not in the native players (iOS, Android mostly) or in Flash.

The reason is that native players have their own interfaces – we don’t control them and Flash is another playback environment (although we try to make Flash and HTML5 look very similar for consistency).

Your investment would be $1000. We would also offer you a perpetual five domain license in recognition of your support.

Thanks for being part of Foliovision!

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hi John,

I’ve added your five perpetual licenses and sent you an invoice. We look forward to having AB loop ready for your site next week.

Cordial regards,

Alec

Hello John,

we worked on the custom AB loop functionality, first demo can be seen here: https://foliovision.com/player/demos/user-ab-loop

We need to do more testing and improve the styling though.

Thanks,
Martin

Hello John,

thank you for the feedback! We fixed the full-screen mode: https://foliovision.com/player/demos/user-ab-loop

If you want to see the rest of the video, you can seek past the “B” (loop end) marker, it will play until the end of video. Then if you play the video again, it will start at the “A” (loop start) marker and loop the selection again.

We also added previews – when you drag the loop markers, you will get a smaller preview to see what part of video is the marker in. These won’t work in Flash though.

Thanks,
Martin

Hi Martin,

Very nice.

We could consider a button to turn on/off the loop altogether on the timeline bar. When you turn it back on, it would remember the last loop settings you put in. Right now of course, one only needs to reload the page to get back to zero. Truly minimalistic.

PS. Love the choice of video. Very entertaining.

Hi John,

We’d like to get this into your hands so you can see how the interface works for musicians. We want the process to be as simple and intuitive as possible.

Hello John,

FV Player Pro 0.3 is out: https://foliovision.com/2015/05/vimeo-channel-player

The AB loop feature is included, although is not exposed much. Just add ab=”true” to your [fvplayer] shortcode by hand and you will get the AB loop feature working. The reset button is not there yet.

Please let us know if you notice any issues.

Thanks,
Martin

Hello John,

thank you for the bug report, we will fix it.

Feel free to drop in more notes if you find anything else, thank you!

Martin

Hi John,

Thanks for your notes. I can see how a slower slide through would help. Granular editing makes the task much harder.

Martin, what we should be trying for is that quick movements move further than slow movements.

Hi Martin,

Could you include a global preference to turn on the AB option? Thanks. There should then be a way to then turn it off on individual videos (probably the sales page videos but none of the demo videos).

Thanks.

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hi John,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Hi Martin,

Please remove the title tool style hover globally in the next release (not just Vimeo). Perhaps no one needs it.

Thanks.

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hi John and Martin,

I’ve done up a mockup of a very simple interface. I’ve included an AB loop button in the play bar to keep the player very simple when the AB functionality is not being used. The button needs to be improved (probably end up being a silver button) or it could be something visual like this.

Alternatively, it could be a simple vertical marker symbol.

The AB loop bar would be the full width of the video and would use the same colours as the main play bar. At each end there would be a simple A and a simple B. By dragging the A and by dragging the B, you set the end points.

We could of course just put small markers under the existing timeline but that’s very dangerous in a web interface as clicks are not nearly as precise as a desktop application. By offering a simple secondary timeline it should be difficult for people to break or stop the player.

To turn off the loop, all the user has to do is click the loop interface button again. Looping only works when the secondary timeline is visible. This solves the issue of an interface for stopping the looping. My instinct is for the AB interface to remember the last two points until page reload at least (we could consider holding those points attached to that visitor, but it would be another scale of work).

John, would this interface satisfy your visitors’ needs?

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hi John,

My inclination would be to not make the AB interface available in full screen mode (although the loop could play if AB was already engaged). I.e. you’d have to come out of full screen mode to be able to use AB.

Martin and I will have to talk about the ramifications for full screen mode before we give you a definitive answer.

Making the web work for you, Alec

Hello John,

please upgrade to FV Player Pro 0.3.2, this has been released: https://foliovision.com/player/demos/user-ab-loop

You will have to upgrade FV WordPress Flowplayer as well.

Please let us know how it works for you.

Thanks,
Martin

Hi John,

I’m so happy you like the AB roll.

Is the issue that you are not getting our intended colours or that the colours are being overridden by your theme?

Hi Martin,

If the colours are being overridden, we need more resilient classes. We should also make it easy for people to change these colours. I.e. they should match the rest of the player so someone doesn’t need to change the colours in two places.

Making the web work for you, Alec